- “”Over the years…the deviants that have taken over, portraying themselves as naturists”
- “It’s a problem repeated at beaches around the country”
- “more and more complaints. It is also a well-known gay meeting place.”
- “It’s people like [them] who are giving us a bad name.”
- “The lewd behaviour is the concern. It is not against the law to go naked on a beach”
- “the problem has been allowed to fester for years “
- “You’ve got your genuine naturists, for us it’s a philosophy”
Well? Getting tired of reading about this, story after story, day after day? Then DO something! Tell them to stop! Report them to the police, take a pic and send to police, take down license numbers, discuss it in your club, contact national organizations, write letters to the editor, call representatives, TELL YOUR FRIENDS TO STOP DOING IT!
This is not a ‘gay vs straight’ issue; this is perverted, illegal behavior which shouldn’t be countenanced by anyone, gay or straight.
There is already a backlash against gay men quietly forming in the nudist community. More and more people, All Nudist included, are becoming tired of being apologists for gays in general, saying it’s only a few bad apples and not all gay men who cause the problems. Most gays are just as upset as the rest of us, right?
The gay naturist community has remained largely silent about it and, in some cases, tacitly approved of these perverted and illegal practices. No support there. Where are the gay naturism advocates?
It’s taken many years and a lot of effort to reach the present level of acceptance that gay people enjoy now; let’s not lose those gains just because some gay men are sexually deviant and the rest of them are afraid to speak out. We think it’s just some; we’re beginning to wonder.
If gay men want to be accepted into the nudist community, as we expect the real gay NUDISTS do, then they damn well better start acting like the rest of that community or all gay men are going to find themselves left out.
As we’ve said over and over, it’s not a GAY problem, it’s a BEHAVIOR problem. But… the behavior problem is mostly a GAY MALE problem and that aspect of it cannot be ignored, as is usually done in some misguided effort to be politically correct and avoid appearing to be ‘homophobic’.
That fear is what stops this discussion from going anywhere. Whenever the subject comes up it’s either “You’re homophobic!” or “Those damn gays are all alike!” Both are wrong, we hope.
Our national organizations are reluctant to touch the issue for both the above reason plus the fact they owe their existence to the promotion of nudism/naturism as a squeaky-clean, problem-free, happy-happy family image. Baloney. We have our problems just like everyone else and pretending they don’t exist is not going to fix anything. A fake image is no image.
What’s the solution? We don’t know. We do know that this type of behavior is much more of a threat to social nudism than public opinion or religious zealots. This is more of a danger than falling association memberships or an ageing nudist population. More of a problem than recruiting younger nudists or getting more nude beaches.
This threat, a worldwide threat, is the one that can close beaches to us, turn public opinion against us, cause legislation against us, and make the terms ‘nudist’ and ‘naturist’ come to mean something foul and disgusting.
Now go ahead; disagree and try to argue against that point. But you ask, what about swingers and others that cause problems? Don’t even go there; the behavior is just as wrong, of course, but the problem is minuscule compared to the gay male perversion invasion. First things first.
Why are we bringing this up? Why are we making such a big deal of it? And who are we to be saying these things? Just a couple of pretty ordinary nudists who have supported the position of gays for as long as we’ve been writing. We live in a largely gay/lesbian neighborhood, have a gay ‘adopted’ son, a gay cousin, a gay nephew and his husband, a bi niece, a gay brother and his wonderful husband, numerous gay co-workers, have set up a website for a lesban-owned business, list gay organizations on our website, and live in a gay-friendly community. Oh yeah, and have gay friends of both genders. Hell, we even drove 30 miles and climbed a small mountain (ok, big hill) once for a gay neighbor’s wedding!
Are we anti-gay? What do YOU think?
We’re doing this because anybody who accuses us of being homophobic is so obviously obtuse that we can ignore them. They’re attatcking the messenger because they don’t want to deal with the message. Our gay friends will not run away from us screaming because they agree! We hold no public office or association position which could be adversely affected by being honest, we have no dog in this fight other than wanting to protect our nudist/naturist lifestyle.
What we hope to do is stimulate honest, civil, reasoned discussion about this problem throughout the nudist/naturist community., something which is happening only among a few bloggers right now. We need everyone to be talking about it and putting their combined abilities and insights together to find some way to alleviate the problem. There’s a lot of brain power available within our community and only by tapping that resource can we hope to win this battle; we can’t wait for our national associations to finally realize and admit that the problem exists. By then it will be too late, if it isn’t already.
We’ve found in the past that if All Nudist posts something that’s controversial or ruffles feathers it will travel a lot farther than this little blog can reach all alone. We’re hoping that this essay pisses off a lot of gays and straights, enough so that they share it with others and talk about it. The stupid ones will complain about that ‘anti-gay’ All Nudist website and send their friends here for a laugh.
Great! And out of all the folks who come here mad and read this, at least some will get the idea, agree, and maybe, just maybe, do something about it.
That’s a start.
- Locals sick of “homosexual activity” at beach
- Nudists Upset Beach Residents
- Nudist Activity to be Monitored
- Nudists Cause Controversy on Welsh Beach
- Wisconsin Nude Beach Has Sex Problem
- Wisconsin Cracks Down on Sex, Drugs at Nude Beach
Nudists, nudists, nudists… If you were Mom and Pop Textile, wouldn’t you have some concerns about having a nudist beach near you? We sure would!
There are, of course, “good guys’ out there, and D.A.M.N. appears to be oneof them according to their stridently stated position:
”D.A.M.N. is a social organization. Sexual activity and any other type of misconduct will not be allowed at any function. Anyone involved in such conduct will have his membership revoked.”
“D.A.M.N has two rules: No sex and No Clothes are`allowed at our functions.”
Now that sounds like a naturist club! Compare that to the gay naturist sorganization which advises its participants as to which area of the event is reserved for ‘public sexual displays’.
Afterword: If you read the comments below you will find that not everyone agrees that perverts having open sex on public beaches is a problem. In fact, some like the one below insist that the problem lies instead with the naturists who dare to invade the pervs territory then complain! We owe ‘Patrick’ a thank-you for demonstrating so aptly that there are indeed some very sick individuals among us, masquerading as nudists in order to act out their twisted sexual fantasies. The saddest thing is, he really doesn’t think he’s sick; he thinks everyone else is!
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