Boys & Girls, School Showers – update

Originally posted on May 6, 2008  (All-Nudist has MOVED to ALL-NUDIST.COM)

  No, I’m not advocating co-ed showers, so relax (just lost  a bunch of Google porn searchers there.  Off to muddier pastures, guys!).

This is kind of brain twister that has long intrigued me.  Let’s have some fun.

OK, boys and girls shower separately because they might be sexually stimulated by seeing each other nude, right?  So, what if there’s a gay guy in the boy’s shower, shouldn’t he be excluded for that reason?   Same goes for a lesbian in the girl’s shower, right?

So we put the gay guy in with the girls so he isn’t attracted to them but, the girls might enjoy looking at him.  Right again?  Same with the lesbian in the boy’s shower.  Hmm.  Can’t do that.

Now, we can’t put the gay guys together, nor the lesbians, that would NOT be a good idea.  What to do with them?

Maybe we could pair up a gay guy with a lesbian and shower them together?  Nah, that would show discrimination.   Not to mention, there’s only so many showers and too many kids.  Plus, how do we know who’s gay or lesbian without asking?  Can’t do that either.  Even if we could, what red-blooded American boy wouldn’t say he’s gay if it means getting to shower with naked girls?

Blindfolds.  If they can’t see each other, they can’t get turned on ( see What If ), right?  Uh-oh, do I see a group grope-fest happening here?  Bad idea.   Darn!

What’s left, single showers?  That would take up too much space and time.  No showers?  Stinky.

And let’s not forget Bi-folks.  They can’t be with anybody!

Got it!  What if we raise our kids to recognize that the human body isn’t just a sexual tool, that there’s a right time and place for everything, make it clear that the school shower is NOT the time, and that adolescent males always have a hard-on so just ignore it.

Wait a minute, did I just advocate for co-ed showers?

Actually, no.  I just advocated for a natural upbringing and lifestyle for everyone,  where these values would be understood from the earliest years and be no big thing by the time school showers showed up.  It’s called nudism/naturism.  Easily said, afraid it won’t happen in my lifetime.

So we’re left with a situation where only gays and lesbians can enjoy school showers, and they probably don’t because everyone is scared of them ( it’s contagious, you know! ).

Well, not much else to say except that it was a lot easier when I was in school.  Only locker room worries were terror at being seen naked, the hard-on thing, wet towel slaps, and Right Guard sprayed in the crotch.  Ah, for the Olden  Days…        – Steve

Admin: Update: 10-20-10   Recent events in the news about the rise in gay-bashing in schools has brought this issue from the realm of simple humor into reality.  We’ve seen kids on the news expressing their concerns about sharing facilities with gays, ‘that’s so gay’ is a common phrase, attacks upon and suicides by gay kids are being reported more often, and there’s an attitude that gays are trying to take over. 

 What’s happening here?  Hadn’t we begun to accept the idea that it wasn’t the end of the world if someone is gay?  Gay humor, gay movies, gay pride, equality, wasn’t that the direction we were going?  Weren’t the old days of fear and hatred a thing of the past, except for fundamentalists and rednecks?

Or has it been this way all along and we were just fooling ourselves?  A nation full of make-believers pretending tolerance while harboring hatred inside, waiting for the right time to bring it out again.  And has this volatile political war being waged anything to do with it?  Could the rise of a vocal conservative group which makes no bones about being Christian oriented and seeking old-fashioned values be part of the problem?

It seems like everyone who has ever felt put upon by those ‘damn liberals and their socialist ideas’ is coming out of the woodwork and venting their anger.  Hate the poor, hate the fags, hate the Jews, hate the Muslims, hate ‘em all and let God sort ’em out!

We have something within each of us that makes us a human being, not just a smart animal.  That ‘something’ is what gives us a sense of beauty, poetry, art, creativity , and love.  There’s also a part of us that is purely of animal origin, from it we receive the gifts of fear, anger, violence, hate, and greed.  These factions are constantly at odds and are the stuff of myths, legends, and religion, by other names.  

We have a choice.  We can allow our baser nature to rule our lives, which is easy to do considering our history, or we can assert our human nature to overcome those basic instincts which are no longer necessary to our success as a society.   We can base our society, and lives, on that ‘something’ which makes us human and gives our world all that is good, or we can wallow in the mud with those creatures to whom we feel so superior

12 Responses

  1. From what I hear, no one in high school even takes showers anymore. It was required after PE when I went to school. We all got over the initial embarrassment and figured out it was no big deal. There were the wet towel slaps but those were usually in fun, hardly ever in a mean-spirited way.

    I think a lot of the backlash against gays, Musilims, liberals, and even nudists is born out of deep-seated fear of anything that is different from what the mainstream press, media, religion, government, etc. defines for us. People feel they can’t do anything about that fear so the project on easy targets. Just my opinion.

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  2. “…except for fundamentalists and rednecks?”.

    Maybe there are just more of those about now. Or the most cowardly ones have come out now that there’s a bigger mob to shout from the back of.

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  3. Reminds me of back in high school run by Christian Brothers. Yes, at this all boys school, homosexuality was a paranoid fear amongst many.

    In the changeroom for PhysEd/Sport, there is a change bench on one side and showers on the other. There is nothing separating the two and no privacy for those who like to shower in privacy. Just shower heads sticking out the wall.

    I was sick of going back to class feeling all hot and sticky so on one day, I brought a towel along where I stripped naked and washed myself down in the shower. Class mates asked what I was doing so I said that I was sick of going to class sticky so I’m showering. Some agreed with the idea and so I suggested they do the same thing from next time on.

    What happened?

    One good Catholic boy full of paranoia had spoken to the Christian Brothers. One of them verbally disciplined me for promoting homosexuality and I told him to go and get stuffed.

    Admin: So they had showers but you weren’t supposed to use them? Strange… Not really, I guess, coming from the same folks that think God gave us fun parts that we’re not supposed to enjoy!

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  4. At RTC Great Lakes as far as I know all the showers are open. I had to nude shower nearly every day for two months with other men. Nobody refused or they would probably be cussed out, exercised, then discharged. Showering was always rushed except Sundays.
    Even after boot camp some barracks have open showers like the Enterprise at Great Lakes.
    Navy people seemed more tolerant: stuff like watching boobies on TV while phase 1 were in attendance line, even the females didn’t mind what was on TV.

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    Vecchio ma ancora attuale. Magari nelle scuote Italiane la doccia manco esiste, ma ci sono tante altre situazioni a cui si può ricondurre la questione: piscine e palestre, ad esempio.

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  8. Interesting and you failed to throw the transgender group in the mix!! lol !!

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  10. Hey, this was written in 2008! Transgenders hadn’t been invented yet and gays were barely acceptable! We were pushing the envelope to talk about THIS issue, let alone all the permutations that could now be imagined! It was just a fun mental exercise that, tragically, lost a lot of fun in subsequent years when violence rose its ugly head. What was a humorous topic has become a deadly serious issue in more recent times.

    However, the idiocy of the ‘problem’ hasn’t changed, nor has the idea of teaching kids how to put bodies, genders, and the sexes into proper perspective. Alas, that’s something which may never change. Hatred and fear of difference is a human trait which all the education in the world is unlikely to change. It sure hasn’t yet.

    Laws and social pressure can control behavior to some degree, but minds belong to their owners and beliefs defy logic. Superstition (religion) is great example of that…

    Thanks for the comment; maybe someday we’ll revisit this topic and attempt to include ALL types of… nah, there’s just TOO MANY now to keep track of! 😉


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